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Mithaldu on Jan 18, [—]. Bitbucket repo is alive. While I doubt this could be spun into a usable browser – legal issues aside, a lot has changed on the modern web, and the opera devs probably abandoned the old engine for a reason – I still greatly enjoy this leak. Even just out of defiance. I am a very defiant person ;-. I also long for the days where a browser fit on a floppy, and a small team could implement one from scratch. The browser part I don’t care. I want the mail client natively on linux from it :.

StavrosK on Jan 17, [—]. I would pay for that. StavrosK on Jan 18, [—]. I’m already using Vivaldi, hopefully the mail client will be good. Vivaldi isn’t as fast as Opera was, but the web isn’t what it used to be either They didnt abandon old codebase because it was bad it was leaner and faster than anything before and after :.

They did it for economic reasons – taking advantage of all the google work on the blink means Opera “browser development” is currently nothing more than customizing a skin. If it’s the complete browser, then it is perfectly usable.

I am using it to make this post, i am using it as my mail client, and i use it as my primary browser, only shelling out to chrome for websites that drank too much of the js cool aid. It is taken down by github now. Opera will be taking legal step. Quite interestingly, most files have a git timestamp from June Why is this? It’s odd; my first guess was Opera 1. When it comes to arbitrary dates to use as the commit date, I have no idea why that was chosen.

Maybe it’d make sense to someone with the actual VCS history! There are only a handful of actual commits on the repo: two from , and the rest from 4 days ago. It would seem that someone had a tarball of the source and specifically choose to backdate the commit, for whatever reason. Opera Software ASA was founded on that day. How do you know Opera will do that? I don’t think they would care too much at this point. They say in the takedown request that they want the uploaders IP and email to them down.

Gaelan on Jan 17, [—]. Probably that was when coders learned about being sold to Qihoo and to get ready to train their replacement. Maybe this is not the right point to ask this but are there any even bigger leaks of close-source software that have appeared? I always wondered what would happen if parts of Windows or Google search engine became public. Usually it’s old software that gets leaked. Windows NT4 source code has leaked before, amongst others.

It doesn’t have much of an impact at that point, except for enthousiasts. Windows and Half Life 2 spring to my mind immediately. They also offered Napster source among other, less important, things. It was all over the tech news at the time. StevePerkins on Jan 17, [—].

So much salty hate for Opera in this thread! Personally, I think it’s current incarnation is pretty awesome. I’m a bit uneasy about the Chinese company that bought it, and I’m keeping my eyes open for bad behavior, but right now I love the direction that the actual browser has taken.

Old-school Opera fans say that it’s just Chrome with a power-user skin slapped on top. It has none of the compatibility issues that dogged old-school Opera for years, but it’s a million times better than plain Chrome. Plus, the bookmarks and settings sync service doesn’t flake out once a month like Google’s and Firefox’s does.

Easy sync between desktop and mobile, and Opera is by far the most performant mobile browser. I totally get that there’s a hardcore audience who liked the old built-in desktop email client, or some of the UI quirks that differ from Chrome or Firefox. However, surely you have accept that these are fringe minority preferences even Mozilla spun off its integrated email client, and keeps talking about dropping support altogether.

Besides, if you really want those things then Vivaldi is re-implementing them anyway. One hour after you’ve posted this comment, I went through every single comment in the thread and found 1 one negative comment about Opera. Considering that, wouldn’t you say it’s fair to say that your comment is bait? This probably should have been a reply underneath “akmittal”‘s top-level comment, since I’m referring to two or three replies he received. His comment was one of the first things posted.

So at the time of MY comment, that was very much the tone of this thread. The direction of the conversation has changed since then, which probably explains why my comment has gone from 15 upvotes to zero.

However, it was clearly not bait at the time. Under drinkjuice’s reply to akmittal yes, that’s the one comment I’m referring to. But one does not “so much” make. At this point, Opera is pretty much just a brand name making a mockery of the former program. If you wish, you could quibble over whether these are sufficiently “salty”. I don’t care if our opinions differ.

Regardless, you’re implying that a positive counterpoint to negativity over Opera is out of place here, and that’s nonsense. I’m posting this from chropera as we speak, and I used presto for a decade before that. While your points are spot on, there’s one thing about Presto – performance, or more specifically resource usage. Modern layouting engines are simply not careful, because apparently all their devs have 32GB RAM and 8 cores, so users have to as well.

The problem is the argument “people generally don’t have 50 tabs open, so why bother”. Well, it bothers people who could comfortably do so in presto, it’s not just nostalgia goggles. As for vivaldi, I really tried to like it, putting up with its numerous subtle bugs. Then I deobfuscated its source code one day and realized if it ever becomes stable, it will be the day when a large scale nodejs project managed to do so. For some reason cheap labor? The reasons why Presto coped with less memory are complex and not really down to carefulness there’s plenty of resources put into memory consumption in both Blink and EdgeHTML , but reasons of architectural decisions that led to comparatively poor performance JS-heavy stuff especially!

Vivaldi is mostly formed of ex-Opera employees esp. Why are they using JS? I can’t really tell, beyond a desire to use web-technology as much as possible; I’d totally agree TypeScript or Flow would be better! I’m willing to counter-speculate: Whatever made original presto great was not because of their cofounder and CEO, but the people who actually wrote the code.

Sure: often using shorts where other browsers used ints, using floats where others used doubles, or even using ints where others used doubles back when much of that code was written, Presto was far more concerned about performance on devices without FPUs than other browsers. All of this could easily be observed through layout and scripting, and much of it led to many of the hardest to tackle site compatibility bugs that were ultimately never fully fixed and most never had any fix shipped.

Heck, Yngve was literally the first person aside from their founders to work on Opera, and owned the much of the network code in Presto till near the end; Petter I think was the only other person to have worked for over 20 years at Opera, having worked on the Desktop browser for the majority all?

If my memory is correct, the names in the source-tree were module owners and module QA, which amounts to a fraction of the number of people involved esp. At any given point there was maybe a quarter of the current team with names anywhere in the source tree… and that’s only considering Presto. Desktop had an even smaller ratio, as far as I’m aware.

If you looked in the ES engine, I’m pretty sure my name should be there as the module QA though I’m not sure this will be true at the point desktop As for those you listed, half of them joined relatively late on, and not that long before the move to WebKit announced Feb Frankly, the company deserves hate because they lied.

In the migration to 15 they promised they’d implement most of what Opera 12 had. They haven’t even implemented the ability to switch tabs by holding the right mouse button and scrolling, one of the most basic things.

Just wondering what Opera will loose open sourcing it? They are not using it anymore. As often with proprietary source code, it may include some third-party code or libraries that they have no right to redistribute, for example. To “free” a repository, you must first audit the code for 3rd-party code and check the legal status of this code, and you may need to replace it with a free replacement, and find a license compatible with all the code.

That may represent a significant effort, with associated costs Asooka on Jan 17, [—]. But if it was taken by a third party, Opera aren’t distributing anything, are they? They probably have to do their due diligence to get it back or they are held liable. Who knows though. Fnoord on Jan 17, [—]. CEO is still the same.